I have about a million posts lined up, but first, my unwavering curiousity leads me to asking you a few questions. I’ll apologise once more for not writing in here about much recently other than the continuing dogged depression.
Today in “Seaneen’s being Nosey”, I want to know about your experiences of psychosis.
I sometimes frown when I read descriptions of this site, or my good self, and the word “severe” is chucked in. As experience is subjective, I have always thought that my experiences were quite typical and moderate. Those who’ve been in charge of my care do believe I have severe manic depression, and those around me certainly believe that I have severe manic depression. But as it has yet to kill me, and since I have less extreme episodes than I used to (thanks mostly to antipsychotics and mood stabilisers), the “severe” status I occupied means less and less to me.
Because the online world of mental health is competitive (and this is true, although it pains me to say it. In certain circles some people do compete to be “worst”), “severe” to me has always seemed like an unnecessary almost-boast that is designed to exclude the less severe. To say, almost, “I have it so bad that your puny experience is null”. This isn’t how I feel. Because I am me, with my eternal inferiority complex, my line is more so, “My experience is null and yours matters”. Which isn’t right either.
Manic depression to me is severe by definition- it is a disorder characterised by severe mood swings. So when I say, “Living with severe mental illness”, that is what I refer to, rather than “I am severely manic depressive”. You see?
The subjective “severe” tag has been clinically, yet colloquially, applied to me for a few reasons:
1) I landed myself in hospital because of it.
2) I became ill very quickly, very badly and very young.
3) I have “Bipolar I” disorder which, clinically, encompasses hypomania’s bigger, badder sister, mania. (Personally, I think that having more depressive episodes, like in bipolar II, is worse. But all the tags confuse me, so I take it on a person to person basis…)
4) I have rapid-cycling and am almost constantly in one episode or another, of varying “severity”, meaning that I’ve had far more episodes than someone with “classic” manic depression would have, and that I am harder to treat
5) I have experienced psychosis at both ends of the rainbow, and I’ve experienced it a lot
6) I have tried to top myself.
My CPN thinks I am doing well because I have insight into my condition and a willingness to be treated for it, which is a change from a lot of her patients who aren’t even aware that they’re ill. So, by that token- comparably speaking- I am not severe at all. I know that I am lucky and much better than a large amount of people. What I don’t know is…well, anything about the future. March and April and May were pretty bad for me. I know I am somewhat dependant on medication. But I digress.
The bit of that useless list I am interested in right now is psychosis.
So, I was wrong in thinking that every person with manic depression must have experienced psychosis. Bipolar II is more common, so it must be more than 50% of people with bipolar disorder who haven’t experienced psychosis. Although this confuses me as I thought people with Bipolar II would experience psychotic depression.
I may also be wrong in thinking that auditory hallucinations were the enclave of schizophrenia rather than manic depression. I’ve been doing some reading (morbid as I am. It’s certainly useful to be fascinated by your own mental illness) and apparently auditory hallucinations are common in manic depressive psychosis. I think the difference is that schizophrenia has “command” hallucinations and commentary on the person’s behaviour.
I’ve had psychotic episodes quite a lot in the past decade. The most difficult and frightening parts are delusions and visual hallucinations.
I’ve talked about psychosis a lot here but for the purposes of this post, here’s a summary:
My delusions mostly revolved around two things- paranoia and grandiosity. These are the bare bone things that happened- it would take too long to actually go into how I presented myself at how I actually came across times (rambling, confused, loud, panicked, rather…odd, in short).
The paranoid side of things has nearly always been that I’ve been convinced I am being followed, stalked, spied on, poisoned, plotted against, primed for murder, hated, ruined or unsafe. So this has led me to doing things like barricading my doors, locking myself in the room, lashing out at strangers who I perceived to be trying to hurt me, jumping into gardens when someone is behind me, abruptly leaving my flat because I felt unsafe, thinking that there were things placed in where I live to hurt me, spitting out food that has been given to me, refusing it in the first place, blocking up and sealing cupboards and windows, withdrawing from people who are close to me, believing that there are conspiracies against me, taking the phone out of the wall, refusing to answer doors or open post, thinking that people on the TV, radio, tube, street, wherever were talking about me and using things (letters, papers, eye movements) to signal about me or believing that I am irrevocably evil and deserved to die. I’ve also become confused between stuff I wrote/read/watched on TV and reality and thought people/places existed and they didn’t.
In short- my delusions have been one large delusion of importance. Of course in my right mind as I am now without psychosis I know that I’m a speck on the world’s surface.
In similarly egomaniac terms were grandiose delusions. That usually comes with mania for me. And that lists runs thus, in short: thinking I was a genius, thinking I was chosen by God, thinking I was the bestest, smartest most beautifullest person in the world, believing that I was famous, believing that everybody loved me, believing that I was related or known to powerful people, believing that I had endless wealth and so on.
Delusions to me are worst because it means that I sometimes don’t realise in my life what was real and what was imagined, which leads to rather awkward conversation occasionally. Likewise, people often mention to me wild or outlandish claims I have made that I have absolutely no recollection of, which is embarrassing, to say the least.
In terms of hallucinations, I have experienced auditory (hearing things) hallucinations, as well as tactile (feeling things) hallucinations but they have always troubled me less than seeing things. I’ve scratched myself raw when I’ve thought that they were insects under my skin, and I’ve shouted at nobody to turn the music down. I’ve lived with voices telling me to kill myself and I’ve heard people calling my name and remarking upon how either awful or brilliant I am. And I’ve heard many, many voices all at the same time talking nonsense, on and on, which was very irritating and it makes it harder to concentrate than it already is.
But seeing things has always been the worst for me. They come, suddenly, shockingly, and it’s terrifying. Some things have remained- Satan in my bedroom, for example, was not one night, but many- and some were brief, but horrifying. I’ve watched everyone around me collapse into maggots and saw my own face and body dissolve into green rot. I have sat in rooms and talked to people who were not there, had riotous, noisy arguments with nothing. I’ve seen trees snap and fall onto me, when they were as noble and sturdy as before, seen people begin to fight in the street, when they were just talking, watched insects and rats run across my floors and legs and bed, seen brown, furry creatures crawl upon my arms, blood unfurl from my hands and eyes, people talk back to me in the mirror, seen words jumble and change into insults then change back and ridiculously believed that a lion was following me. And that I was in the Toejam and Earl computer game.
Writing all this down makes me feel as though I am underestimating myself. I think if I read this blog I wouldn’t want to know me. The joy of being Googlable means that some of my more distant acquaintances now look at me in a bizarre way.
Of course I had no idea under recently that these things were in fact psychosis. I went through through my life from my late childhood until my very late teens just believing it was who I was. It has only been very recently- within the past eighteen months after ten years of being quite crazy-that I even knew what psychosis was.
(That’s the bad things about becoming mad when you are young. Your sense of self is so spiderwebby, it is easy to become dust. And those around you don’t know what madness is, and those who love you don’t love you because they’re so young they’ll love someone else quickly enough. People aren’t “mad” in their childhood or teens, even if they are. Doctors don’t even think of it. Becoming mad in your adult years means you lose a lot more. I guess all I lost were all my friends and my education, which is better than my home or job or money. But in terms of equal opportunities, I went mad when I was an adult too and lost all of those things).
A lot of people cite psychosis as a valuable experience, a creative boon. Sometimes, I agree with that. The grandiose self belief with psychosis led to me writing some of my best (and now lost) pieces, but the frightening side of it outweighed the wonderful side of it. Of course, there is the argument that now, because I have manic depression, I have something to fill a blog with. At least you’re never alone with your imaginary friends, nyuk, nyuk, nyuk.
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I haven’t experienced much psychosis, and it hasn’t been really bad, but what I have experienced has been pretty terrifying. It’s mostly been delusions leading to strange behaviour.
I sat underneath my table, hiding behind a chair, holding a knife, just in case someone could get through my (locked) door, believing that people were trying to kill me.
I ran through alley ways all the way home, several times, because I suddenly didn’t feel safe in public. I believed that everybody was staring at me, and every time they laughed I thought it was because I am – fat, ugly, stupid, clumsy, etc. I heard snatches of conversation and, where they weren’t obviously insults of any kind, believed that people were talking about me in code.
I deleted the history on my computer, every day for ages, because I thought that at the end of every day, people would access my browsing history, go to the sites I visited, and change them, adding subliminal messages.
I had a panic attack in a lecture because I didn’t have a clear route to a door, and I thought someone in the room was going to start killing everybody.
I’ve felt things crawling all over my skin.
Unrecognisable things kept darting around in my peripheral vision, making me jump and look around, frightened – everybody thought I had a twitch or was trying to make them laugh.
I believed that my cuddly toys were real people with hearing and feelings, and would talk to each of them for exactly the same amount of time, so none of the others would get jealous. I’ve also talked to ceilings and shoes. And phones that didn’t have anybody at the other end.
I’ve had quite a few psychotic episodes over my lifetime, but only recently been able to give it words and talk to my therapist about it.
The latest episode I had (a few weeks ago) is typical of my episodes – I get intensely paranoid, in this case, I was convinced the Secret Police were tracking me and monitoring me. I felt unsafe, like I was going to be attacked, that people were out to get me.
I have visual hallucinations of a figure I often see which I’ve called the worm man because it is a figure with worms spilling out of its orifices. Which is enough of a scary figure, particularly for me who actually has an intense phobia of worms.
I was ranting on about the secret police – and pretty much had to be dragged to the hospital and locked up for a couple days.
Fortunately for me, my episodes are very brief – lasting from hours to a day. My primary diagnosis is Borderline personality disoder, I believe. I don’t think I have schizphrenia or manic depression.
Funny. I just wrote the other day about how I don’t usually post on other people’s blogs because I worry that people will come after me. I’m trying to work through that so hence the post. I also have issues with being outside because I feel that I’m being watched and plotted against. I’ve been diagnosed with bipolar II but have experienced psychosis. Mostly prescription drug induced but not always. As a child I was walking by a graveyard at night. I felt that I had a special power which allowed me to walk among the dead so I wandered around the gravestones for hours in the moonlight. While taking cymbalta the Earth spoke to me and told me all her secrets. That drug also made me completely insane to the point where all I could see and hear was the sound of a million televisions roaring at full volume. Mostly though I see movement in the periphery of my vision, dark objects that look like mice or insects. This happens when I get severely depressed.
Ah, the insects and depression. I hear ya.
I don’t know if I could really call any of these hallucinations. They, whatever they are, only began 3/4 months ago when I was hypomanic and have continued and worsened since despite dropping into another depression.
Firstly I’m terrified that the police are coming to take me away. If I see one, I either run off, try to turn my face away or hide, all amidst panic attacks.
I’m terrified that people I know in “real” life are reading my blog, no matter what precautions I take and that some how they’re going to use this information against me.
I’ve spent nights too scared to close my eyes because theres been a bloke sat on my chair. Similarly when out one night waiting for D, there was a man stood a few metres away staring at me, he was real until D walked straight through him.
A few nights ago I was watching this face in my room, then suddenly could feel myself rolling off the bed and trying to feel my way to my door to go get help. I went through all the motions but somehow all I could see was the view from my bed and his face the whole time until I made it to the top landing.
I’ve heard screaming, in particular pigs being slaughtered. I;ve heard breathing and snippets of conversation.
Songs have been played for me, written for me. Sometimes they come out of the computer and are being played live for me. I’ve also nearly fallen/been sucked into my computer screen.
And heres me ranting and rambling sorry. Interesting post though. Take care x
I don’t think I was bumped from BP2 to BP1 after I experience psychosis, maybe I was.
It came on quick, I was in a severely depressive funk in bed on the phone to a friend. I was pinned to the bed by an unseen force increasing pressure from my extremities in, finally ending with a gripping sensation around my heart.
Since then I have had some weird visions, like film clips playing in my mind that I am being forced to watch, that if I could just shake my head which is being held by some force I would stop seeing them.
Other than that I have heard whispers and words, I see spots and lights moving, I have seen shadowy figures.
Apparently because I am aware at the time that these things are not real they are called illusions rather than hallucinations. Either way I am now on quetiapine after having been tried on two other APs.
Hi Seaneen – another great post again.
I’ve had delusions (of grandiosty), delusions (of insufficiency), paranoia (I’m being followed, I’m going to be fired, I’m going to be found out to be rubbish ar what I do for a living) and both auditory and visual hallucinations.
When I’ve had delusions of insufficiency in the past, I’ve always called my other delusions “delusions of adequacy” in the interests of blowing them off with humour. Doesn’t work.
My psych told me that auditory hallucinations are differentiated in psychosis between schizophrenia and non-schizophrenia thus: if the voices can be localised and are coming from outside, it’s schizophrenia. I’m a little sad that it’s so cut-and-dried (apparently it’s not).
Visual hallucinations are the worst. I retain a concern that I’ve got someone who follows me, no matter where I am. He can and does change shape, but he never walks – he has a walking motion, but it’s always about 2 inches off the ground. He’s never tried to talk to me but if I ever look around he always makes eye contact with me, but doesn’t say anything.
Psychosis was perhaps the worst part of my episode, though the depression that followed was brutal. I suppose the reason that it bothers me is that I lost self control. I am a control freak by nature.
My episode wasn’t bad at first though I did harbor some rather strange thoughts such as dogs were magic and could heal people suffering from grief. Then it began to escalate to full blown mania with psychosis.
It seems like a dream now, at the time it wasn’t scary to me. I believed I worked for the military. I crawled through the woods in the middle of the night with no flash light. I crawled into the deepest part of the woods laid down looking at the moon and talking to God. I begged him to get people to understand and believe me when I told them I was being chased by many law enforcement agencys.
We live near an air force base that has jets regularly flying over my house. At the time I thought the president was flying in them saluting me as they flew over. I thought I was the spiritual adviser to the president and he was sending me messages through the radio.
As the psychosis continued to escalate my thoughts were running around so fast I couldn’t concentrate for more than a minute or two. However I was positive the FBI, CIA and homeland security were tapping my phones and following me in white vehicles. Almost anything that I saw or heard became a part of my delusions.
I was extremely ill the night I stopped a policemen to tell him I was being followed. He didn’t believe me (imagine that) so I started yelling at him. He told me to stay were I was standing, I believe he was going to issue me a citation for disturbing the peace. However the people that were chasing me were getting close and I knew I had to run. So I got in my truck and took off.
Three or four police officers then began chasing my vehicle with their lights and sirens on. I pulled over thankfully, though it was more of an automatic reaction than knowing that was the right thing to do. The police then approached my vehicle with their guns drawn. They ordered me to exit my vehicle and thankfully I did.
Once they had me hand cuffed and put me in the patrol car. I realized that they were the ones that were after me. I had been captured and I must not cooperate with the enemy. They knew my name so I was positive they had been in on the conspiracy the whole time. (Of course they knew my name, my registration for my vehicle and insurance card were easy to find in my vehicle.)
When we arrived at the police station I was completely enraged and began having visual and auditory hallucinations. I feel certain that the stress of being captured escalated the psychosis to the point I truly had no logic thoughts left. I have no idea what belief system I was operating under.
That is the scariest part to me. Doing and saying things automatically based on my delusions with no thought of the ramifications of what I was saying and doing.
There was a very mean looking lady that was ordering me to give her my personal affects. I truly believed she meant or said for me to undress, so I did. They had to clear the jail of all the male prisoners since I was standing in the middle of intake naked. Then the mean lady began to send me hand signals. At first I thought perhaps she was undercover and was there to help me but then I realized she was part of the plot.
They locked me in a cell with nothing in it but concrete walls. There was no toilet or seats. I was quiet for a short while then I became enraged. I started screaming bloody murder. Finally cold and exhausted I became quiet and they released me. I didn’t sleep that night which of course made my symptoms much worse.
When I arrived home I slept maybe two hours. When I woke up I felt what I can only describe as pure joy. I was dancing and playing around, jumping on my neighbors trampoline.. It was like every worry I ever had, completely disappeared. It was the most peaceful joyful feeling I had ever had. I thought this must be what heaven is like. Of course that didn’t last.
My husband had no idea what was happening and he was understandable upset. He chose that day to confront me about my delusions. The rage that I felt when he confronted me was incredibly powerful. I wanted to drive his truck through the front of my house. Instead I began marching around the block, head held high, walking in a military manner.
I have absolutely NO FRICKING Idea why all the sudden I took off all my clothes, other than they just began to bother me. My skin felt like it had little needles that were jabbing me all over. Like a shirt tag if it is scratchy will be uncomfortable if it is not cut out. However this feeling was about a 100 times worse.
Thankfully when the police showed up they did not arrest me but took me to the hospital. It didn’t take long to take care of my delusions but the mania and rage were still present even after being on medication for a week. By the time they released me I was at least aware of consciences of my actions. I wasn’t well but I was much better than two weeks before.
Than I fell into a horrible black depressions. It took almost a year to recover. It has been about two and half years and I can honestly say I am now asymptomatic living a very wonderful life. However I am painfully aware this is a cyclical disease and at any point this disease could rob me of everything that is dear to me including my sanity.
If your readers find my psychosis bizarre. I would like to say join the club. I was completely horrified once I was well.
I haven’t hit psychosis, but I am wondering. I’ve never read in any book about these manic depressive mood states being related to memory loss, but I sure as hell seem to lose memories of things that happened in episodes. Interesting to see it described.
My hallucinations are caused by PTSD brought on by Katrina. So far every anniversary I’ve had the same situation.
Hubby and I went for a drive the first anniversary and we had to go over a bridge (New Orleans is surrounded by water, so you have to go over bridges no matter where you drive). From out of nowhere I could feel the bridge collapsing beneath the car and started screaming. The next part was sort of a fake premonition?? I could see him submerged in the water and me trying to save him and couldn’t. Hubby held my hand and convinced me we were fine, but we had to go home. I could see him, I was touching him, I knew the car was driving forward, but still could feel these rumblings of the bridge collapsing. We had to return over bridges and every one was the same scream fest.
The next year we were going to dinner at his grandparents (thinking this would keep my mind occupied) and it started pouring rain while we were on a raised highway. I freaked and again thought the highway would collapse. Traffic was slow and I tried to get out of the car, convinced if we walked we could climb down the supports to the ground below and would be okay. Again, hubby held my hand and we turned around and drove home.
It’s only happened twice, and at a specific time of year, so at least I know to be prepared from now on (whatever that means).
So far, I guess my psychosis hasn’t been that bad. It mostly happened when I was younger and undiagnosed; when I was really ill. I’ve always thought that people were talking about me, that they didn’t really like me, that there were hushed and secret conversations going on around me about me. That’s been all my life. But the extreme grandiosity, when I thought I could save the world, was long ago now.
I’ve also had some auditory hallucinations, the phone ringing when it wasn’t , the doorbell ringing when the apartment doesn’t have a doorbell, people calling my name when no one else is home, that sort of thing. But again, the big hallucinations were long ago and visual, and all consuming. I believed that a friend of mine was a unicorn. I could see her become a unicorn sometimes. She was just trapped in a human body most of the time. And so I became not just her friend, but her maidservant, in some respects. I also saw fairies in a nearby wood, and could watch them play for hours at a time. That wasn’t all that lived in the wood, though. There was also a monster there, an evil, dark creature that wanted to kill me and the fairies and my friends. Some of it was an exhilarating time, but some it was the most fearful time of my life as well, as I was completely caught up in it, and no one around me was either willing or able to pull me out. Everyone that knew of it either believed me or went along with my unicorn friend; I wasn’t the only one pulled into her world.
This was broken by going back home, away from those people and that setting. Which was probably the best thing for me at the time, although I didn’t see it that way then. I went into a deep depression, sleeping night and day, and somehow clawed my way out, in time. However I don’t really remember how I did this, as this was all before diagnosis, even before mis-diagnosis as unipolar depression.
I can’t say too much as I’m using my iPod on which text input is painfully slow…
just to say I totally agree about the competitiveness of mi websites, it’s something I’ve noticed a lot.
because I’ve been pretty stable for a while I often question the severity of my bipolar – especially because the aforementioned competitiveness makes me feel like a fraud for even being stable, as if I’ve been evicted from the bb house of bipolarity. but on thinking about it I know I was seriously ill for several years, that I was in and out of hospitals on various sections for a good 3-4 years, and that it’s only really because of that that I’m now stable (because to me the way to stability is thru trial and error under different docs and on different med combos etc). I still catch myself thinking maybe I’m imagining it all tho.
sorry just had to comment on the toejam and earl thing fuck we played that game a lot!
AFAIK the medical classification of mild, moderate and severe is about the degree of impairment.
For example, I can continue my normal life when I experience hypomania, although I am a pain in the arse and find it very stressful. So it’s mild.
My depressive episodes are disruptive and tend to land me in hospital with suicidal ideation. However, they are mostly classed as “moderate” as “severe” is reserved for “won’t eat, sleep, or go to the toilet” depression.
This isn’t a judgment on how distressing it is, but on how much normal functioning you still retain. Many people kill themselves while suffering medically mild depression, for example.
However, when talking to people who are not familiar with mental health, I do emphasise that my depressive episodes make me severely ill – this is a colloquial usage and not an appropriation of the medical terminology. Manic depression, like pneumonia, is a serious illness, so any gradation of symptom description, including “mild” bipolar illness, is relative. Although I’d imagine severe pneumonia, medically speaking, means “on a respirator”, you can be hospitalised with pneumonia and not be in the ICU.
i had terrible pneumonia when i was younger…respirator for two weeks…so geeked after a treatment that i could not tie my shoes…wheelchair down to smoke…this girl i had a thing for at the time brought me a milkshake…chocolate…my favorite…i never saw her again…that is what you get for boozing in winter with the heat off…
Your writings seem very therapeutic. This site provides a lot of support for others…good stuff.