Sometimes I feel this stuff needs to be said. Well, I do tonight due to a few recent e-mails. You can file this post under, “Things that make you go, “what?” if you like.
This is the title me and my sister Paula came up with today for my imaginary autobiography. She said I should interview her and my siblings about all the hilarious times I’ve been ravingly psychotic and said/believed/saw/heard rather outlandish things. The thought of it causes me to cover my face and wail, “I am so scundered!”
For those who you who don’t speak Northern Irish, “scundered” is the colloquial term for mortal embarrassment.
You might consider me what I like to call a “beard rubber”. Sage, thoughtful, with static electricity crackling between the inquisitive fingers that lovingly caress hairy facial adornments. Glasses perched on the nose, a querying eyebrow raised. I write you missives extoling the virtues of humour, openess and directionless, cathartic ranting. I’m not being “brave” when I discuss my own mental hilarity in this blog, I’m just saying what I see, saying what I feel. I don’t really believe in bravery.
I denied the fact that I had manic depression until really recently. I ignored it, despite glaring evidence that it was there. I refused treatment, medication, counselling, the works.
I truly believe that mental illness is nothing to be ashamed of. I truly believe that having a mental illness does not make you a better or worse person than somebody who does not have a mental illness.
I want to combat the shame and to encourage people with mental illness to come out of the closet (or wherever we’re supposed to live, I don’t know, the belltowers, the asylums, the gutters) and say that it’s alright to have a mental illness. It’s just like having a physical illness.
I believe in this. And yet…
Sometimes I am truly ashamed of myself for having mental illness. Sometimes I truly believe that I am a worse person than others because I have a mental illness.
I don’t like this about myself. But it’s a honey trap, and it beckons coyly to the insecure. And I am insecure; I’m a twenty two year old woman who grew up not knowing if both of her parents would be alive the next morning. I was raised on suicide notes and alcoholism.
I know that I am treated differently because I have a mental illness. Being open about it has caused me problems. I strongly suspect that the existence of this blog will cause me problems in the future. And this makes me want to hide it.
I’ve been treated differently by my employers. I’ve been dismissed from jobs because of it. I’ve had people comment on this blog questioning the very existence of my illness, which would not happen to someone who had a long standing, debilitating physical condition.
There is a pressure, if you’re open about having mental illness, to somehow prove it. I can prove it, my medical records confirm everything that I discuss here. I am on an Enhanced CPA because it is the opinion of various consultant psychiatrists, doctors and nurses, and not me, that manic depression is a severe illness and that I suffer from this severe illness. But that wouldn’t be enough. Because mental illness isn’t really real anyway, psychiatrists are just drug-pushers, “mental illness” is a term applied to a loose category of symptoms, etc, etc. So medical records mean nothing.
You must display it somehow. Wear your badge. Act crazily. Dribble some.
There is the prevailing attitude that people with mental illness just can’t “hack life” and that they are fakers and attention seekers. Those who are off work and on benefits because of mental illness are widely regarded as malingerers and scroungers. “Just get over it and work” is the consensus oft quoted to me. It isn’t that bad. Your mental illness isn’t that bad because you can write a blog. Your mental illness isn’t that bad because you dress yourself. There are stereotypes regarding mental illness that just do not exist, would not be allowed to exist, for most physical illnesses. If you’re mentally ill, you must be:
- Rocking back and forth in a corner with drool emanating cheerfully from your terrified jowls
- Manically laughing as you toss all your clothes out the window
- So depressed that you can’t move a muscle
- A murderer
- Believing that you’re the Queen, or something.
Schizophrenia is generally regarded as the “serious” mental illness. The reason why is because it encompasses what people believe to be mental illness; psychosis and personal neglect. It is also generally (and very wrongly) seen as the “crazy” illness, with people mistakenly believing that it is violent, and it carries its own sets of stigma and social ignorance.
Depression is generally regarded as the non-serious mental illness. The reason why is because it is common. This is laughable since severe depression has a high suicide rate.
Manic depression can sort of fall in between the two. As its name suggests, it has the depression down. It’s not all that similar to schizophrenia, but it’s not completely dissimilar either. For example, my experience of suffering from manic depression has included episodes of psychosis. That covers everything from excessive paranoia (for example, me believing that there were beings in my flat which meant to harm me, thinking I was being followed, having “delusions of reference”) to all-out visual and auditory hallucinations. It has also included periods of catatonic depression, when I have been mute and unmoving, which has led to me neglecting to eat, get washed, dressed and all that jazz. Mental illness can overlap. An example is that, while pursuing my medical records, a psychiatrist first commented, “So, she has schizoaffective disorder?” (which is having both the symptoms of schizophrenia and manic depression). If he’d had a cursory glance and ignored some symptoms, he could easily have asked, “So, she has depression?” And this is why some people are misdiagnosed with schizophrenia or depression when they, in fact, have manic depression.
But schizophrenia, manic depression, depression, anxiety, panic, OCD, BDD, personality disorders, all mental disorders are real.
Although I am not a rocking-back-and-forth kind of girl, I have suffered from severe mental illness. I’ve thrown those clothes out the window. I’ve been so depressed that I couldn’t move or speak for weeks on end. And it’s ongoing. I may not have those symptoms now, but I have done, and most likely will do again. I have other symptoms while, as not as serious, are still difficult to live with.
I’m not a stereotype. I come across, I know, as mostly rational and of sound mind. I put effort into my writing here to convey that. I know some of you think I’m funny and talented, and that is lovely, believe me. It might be difficult, in this 15-30 minute window that you see here, to believe that I have mental illness. But I do have a mental illness. And it affects me every single day. It is not a “weakness” on my behalf. I struggle to control the symptoms I suffer from. My moods, they pretty much dictate everything. It’s not “allowing” it too; it’s just how it goes. The fruits of my labour that you so sweetly consume are heavily medicated, very-much-a-reserved-lifestyle, balancing act, half-hour of feeling somewhat capable, living with manic depression. And there is a wiiiide spectrum of how severe the illness actually is. The fact that I get up in the morning does not dismiss my past experiences and does not dictate my future ones. At the end of the day, I still plough on in search of “normality”, and I take a handful of medication just in order to conduct rational conversations and to not slip into psychotic behaviour. I have epically shit memory because of it, to the point where I really don’t recall most of my life.
I’m hammering the point home here, but it is true.
This opposition, this feeling that you’re somehow not really ill because you’re taught that really ill looks different adds to a sense of shame. The feeling of being attacked and tarred as a workshy scrounger, when you have worked, struggled to work then been told medically that you cannot and shouldn’t work for the time being, adds to a sense of shame. The having to painstakingly prove that you’re ill adds to a sense of shame. Taking medication just to function adds to a sense of shame. Of being afraid of things that wouldn’t faze most people. Of pulling your hair out in frustration because you just can’t communicate. You can’t tell anybody what going on in your head because it makes you so ashamed that you just don’t work properly. A sense of weakness. A sense of “what if they’re right about me? What if I am just a weak person?” I mean, surely a strong person wouldn’t become so depressed for no reason? Surely a strong person wouldn’t sometimes be so paranoid that they can’t leave their flat? Sometimes so paranoid that they can’t stay in their flat? Surely a strong person wouldn’t have these mood swings, wouldn’t have them affect their life so much?
I do get ashamed. Sometimes, I want to delete this blog so that I can erase all evidence that I have manic depression. It is something I seriously consider often, and something I probably would have done in the throes of shame if I did not have so many comments saying that this blog helps people. I fantasise about flinging my medication in the Thames, of scratching out the dates for my CPN appointments forever, of walking into fantastic jobs and performing really brilliantly and not being affected by mental illness. Of completely negating its existence.
I periodically private posts in fits of shame. I privated a lot of posts about Body Dysmorphic Disorder because I felt ashamed that what I considered revolting vanity affected me so; even when Rob, who knows me better than anyone, understands that it’s not vanity, it is something real that I often cannot cope with. Sometimes I cry with shame. I cry because sometimes I feel that mental illness rawly exposes my incapability and faults. I cry because I got psychotic, I tried to kill myself, because I did go manic, not once, not twice, but dozens of times, that I have said, seen and believed things that people knew were not true but I did not know, that I get mixed episodes that I can’t fathom nor heal, that I have losts jobs and homes because of this illness, lost friendships, that I do get depressed and hypomanic, and there is no reason why, that every day there is a point when I want to scream because I hate the taste of the medications, I hate when I am depressed but my thoughts race, I hate how it affects the people I love, I hate that I am not consistent and I bitterly hate that, for everything I denied, for everything I tried to do and hide, for everything I avoided, the end result is that I still have manic depression and no amount of willpower or wishing makes it go away. I cry because I am afraid of the future, of those black tunnels of insanity opening up again, of being lost in them.
Sometimes I want to contritely concede to those who e-mail me saying that mental illness isn’t real. That if I were a better person I would not be ill. That if I was stronger I wouldn’t need to take medication or have treatment. That of course I can work, I mean, I write a blog, don’t I? Surely people with illnesses don’t write blogs? How could they, how could life go on around it? And all those failures, all those times of being fired, of being hospitalised, of being pleaded with and begged to get help were just weaknesses that I can imagine away. Sometimes I believe that.
What I would rather believe is that getting help for my illness and that acknowledging that, yep, it’s there, and yep, it’s a part of me, of facing up to its realities, however grim and frustrating is the strong thing I do, not the weak thing. What I would rather believe is that I am strong for confronting the uncomfortable, humilating and scundering truths of my behaviour, past and present. That understanding, if not quite embracing, my illness (I will never be one of those people who wear the, “I don’t suffer from insanity, I enjoy every minute of it!” t-shirts), attending the appointments, trying to get well and attempting, in some way, to encourage a glimmer of empathy and enlightenment in whomever stumbles across this blog, is a Good Thing. Accepting that I have completely fucked up things when I’ve been really manic or depressed. And that I fucked things up mostly because I had no idea I was manic, had no idea that my behaviour and moods were anything out of the ordinary.
That is what I would rather believe about myself. What I would rather believe is the old maxim; it is just rotten luck that I was born with manic depression. What I would rather believe, all the time, is what, in my sound mind, I do believe. That it’s alright to have mental illness. Really, it is. And that we are bullshitting ourselves if we think that willpower alone will make it go away forever.
I don’t want you to ever think of me as a victim, because I don’t think of myself as one, and I very much hope that I don’t convey the impression that I believe I am. I may bang on about how severe my illness is, but it’s to prove the point that it has been but I am still here to tell you about it. Believe me, I am very aware indeed that I could have it much worse. I don’t want you to think of yourself as a victim, either. Nothing good comes of thinking that way. So sneak your fingers through mine, even if like me you sometimes feel ashamed and contrite, and tell those who don’t believe that mental illness is real to piss off.
Life does go on around mental illness.
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I like the phrase. Seems to sum it up – the most humiliating thing of one’s life. When I first feel something start to go awry, I cut off all connection with my life, so that no one will witness.
And when you wrote about schizophrenia vs. depression vs. in between…just this week I was reviewing for one of the med board exams and some crappy review book had this table of disorders, and under manic depression it was written: “Prognosis worse than major depressive disorder.” That’s all.
I kept thinking, where the fuck am I in that sentence?
Nice post. I think your acceptance of your condition and that no amount of wishful thinking alone will get rid of it is key, and will continue to help you live a fulfilling life, Seaneen. All the best!
I have Bi-Polar Affective Disorder and found your blog very interesting and supportive.
Top post as always, I always enjoy reading what you write and in a strange kind of way it’s reassuring to know there are other people out there who are in fact experiencing worse problems that me.
I enjoy writing, I keep two blogs one people know about and another under a different name which is the true me. Writing really helps get rid of those intrusive thoughs that keep swirling around in my head.
Like your way of thinking I have deleted several blogs over the years and I have always regretted it since there was a whole lot of history to look back on.
Very well said. I think most of us with MI diagnosises have dealt with the same exact thing… having friends and family, aquaintances, co-workers and such react to finding out that we have been daignosed with a mental illness with the VERY UNHELPFUL responses of :
“Well, you know if you just:
tried harder,
thought about happier things’
stopped thinking about IT,
stopped talking about IT
stopped reading about IT
stopped focusing on IT,
and would just chill out and drink a beer and be happy…
well you would be just fine!… You’re choosing to be this way and there is nothing wrong with you but the fact that you allow yourself to believe there is something wrong with you”
LINE OF TOTAL BULLSHIT !
All it ever does to have people say these things to us is add to the lieklyhood that we will be successful at remaining in, or retreating to a state of DENIAL. It takes a lot of inner strength to NOT LISTEN TO THOSE PEOPLE because it is soooooo tempting to want to believe that if you could just learn to be stronger, better etc., that somehow this illness would dissapear and you’d never have to deal with it again. IT IS MUCH HARDER to keep on doing the RIGHT things, like taking your meds, going to therapy, not drinking, and taking care of yourself and accepting when you need to “give yourself a break”, than it is to live in an immaginary world where you believe you can get well without doing any of these things and so you push yourself too hard and in the end make things much worse for yourself.
Just because you are not soo ill now as to not even be able to write, that doesn’t mean you never have been that bad off and that doesn’t mean it wont happen again (though we all hope it doesn’t). As long as you know that in order to keep those things from happening again, to reduce the likelyhood of the illness taking over your life again, and to increase the likelyness that you will get better and better, find wellness and STAY WELL that you have to CONTINUE TO ACCEPT THAT YOU DO HAVE A MENTAL ILLNESS EVEN IN THE FACE OF THOSE WHO PROCLIAM THEY KNOW BETTER AND THAT YOU ARE NOT ILL AND THIS IS SOMEHOW A CHOICE (what a load of BS, as if anyone would choose the HELL that this illness can be) AND you have to continue doing all the things, like self education, therapy, meds etc., that HELP get you and keep you well.
I dont know where people get off telling others “how it is” when they have NO IDEA of what it is like to have your mind do things that are beyond your control and beyond the influence of “willpower” “selfcontrol” and “strength”.
It takes more strength to accept you have a problem, whatever that problem is, than to live in denial.
you for writing this post! And I second that recomendation that anyone who wants to talk shit and say that they know you better than you know yourself and that mental illness isn’t real, that they can piss off. I hope they do and I hope they stop giving you shit.
On ’scoundered’.
In Napoletan you’d say: “scuorno”.
Strangely, it does sound a bit like it.
sorry “scundered”
yeah, what katielou said….
i see genius in your writing, i hope you never give it up.
Hi Seaneen!
I got back from a trip to London yesterday. I went to Camden on Saturday and it was odd because I found myself wondering if you were there. I don’t know you, and have never met you, but probably because I know you live in London you were in my head a lot. I was thnking of when you post about crouch end and wondering where it was on the underground
Anyway, I don’t think mental illness is anything to be ashamed off, I hate the notion of ‘normal’ and I think its a sad reflection on society that its 2008 and yet people are still treated differently and feel stigmatized by their mental diagnoses. Look at me – I keep my mental health history a total secret from lots of people I know because I am worried it will cause difficulties for me at work. Did you find that being ill led to a situation where you certainly found out who your friends were – when I was an in-pt the people who treated me the same and the people who just didn’t get in touch made me think a lot. I know everyone reacts differently and maybe I was harsh but I choose to keep close to the people who supported me through that very difficult time
Stay safe
xXx
i really appreciate all you’ve written here.
i’ve noticed how my life is slowly becoming more and more like yours in a way which is really scaring me. not that your life in a whole is a bad one at all, i mean your experiences with manic depression. You’ve really helped me though, and you continue too. I truly read this blog every single day to get me through it, and i thankyou very much.
I so needed to hear this…
Especially the part about “proving it”
THANK YOU
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Reading this post was like having you in my head. I don’t know how, but you’re able to speak the things that I feel but can’t recognize. I used to visit here every day but (I’m ashamed to say) had stopped because I’m doing better and am able to work (have been for almost 6 months), and because I wanted to “put it behind me.” I’m 27 and this is the first time I’ve been okay for this long. But now that I’m “ok”, I feel ashamed about my history. I’m doing well for now (albeit with the help of little round pills) so therefore I am ok and must always have been ok. It was all my imagination!
I feel ashamed about my illness, and at fault. I don’t think OTHERS with mental illnesses are at fault, just that I am. I believe that people like you, Seaneen, are struggling with something genuinely real but that I’m just a poser and behaving this way because I am weak.
I sometimes have imaginary conversations with my co-workers while I’m talking to them at work.
I smile at them and say:
“Hi! Sure I’ll get that project done for you no problem I’m competent I’m fine I’m great look how efficient and NORMAL I am I’m just like you! Oh, and by the way, I have bipolar disorder. Just a few months ago I was (once again) so severely depressed I couldn’t get out of bed for weeks and was on the verge of suicide. I take pills every morning and every night to prevent this from happening again (although I’m sure that it will anyway). I can’t lift my sleeves because I have scars that are from all those times I cut myself. I’ve been this way for a long long time and will be this way for a long long time to come.”
Friendly co-worker would soon morph into wide-eyed-and-panicky-letter-opener-wielding-co-worker.
There’s the shame. The- “you don’t want to come near me, look how broken I am” kind of shame.
Coming here is always a comfort, Seaneen. If someone like you, who struggles with so difficult an illness, can also be so insightful and thoughtful and ALIVE, then maybe we crazies aren’t so broken after all.
Thanks, Seaneen, it’s good to be back.
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Instead of linking our fingers together, I would like to circle my arm through yours and walk along with you. The perspective you provide speaks for all of us. I always feel like someone is wagging a finger at me. And you know, sometimes it comes from the one’s whose idea is to help.
You are a very gifted writer.
what a great post. i like to refer to my illness as “werewolfism”. it’s more fun than calling it bipolar, which isn’t very fun as you know. like you said, we who suffer from mental illness need to come out of the closet and not be ashamed. i used to be ashamed of it when i was younger, but now i realize it is just a condition that can be treated. you are a great writer. i plan to check this blog out more often. cheers!
Good on you Seaneen. I’ve been diagnosed over fifteen years and suffered a lot longer than that, yet you’ve given me a salutary reminder, not to try and deny where I have come from and that it was about as real as real gets.
[...] I do sometimes censor myself. There are some subjects which are off limits. First and foremost, I’m a poncy writer before I’m manic depressive. If something is very badly written, I tend to delete it, just because it hurts my own eyes. That, you may argue, gives an unbalanced perspective; after all, I write a lot of crap when I’m depressed or hypomanic. But I like to be articulate, and if it’s not articulate, I don’t see the point in posting it. I’m not often a “typical” depressive but feel pretty bad, so that comes with me writing a lot of ranty crap that is best kept to myself. I write, I write and I write and a lot of it is agitated ramblings (not related to blogging, just writing), so I keep those to myself, too. I’ve written about this before. [...]