I feel a bit better, mostly due to John Hughes and a mammoth session of puking expelling the greasy food I gorged on today. Nothing worse than that lining your tummy, erk. If you cast your eyes to my list of links, you’ll notice a new one there called The Bipolar Foundation. Please visit this. It’s quite a new site and a very worthy inclusion to the blogroll. It’s set up by Oxford University and has extremely up to date research. More to follow. My dad was given a serenity prayer when he joined Alcoholics Anonymous. It was this: He wasn’t at all religious, rather the opposite, but he still found comfort in these words. I remember him retelling to me a frightening statistic he had been told in his group- one out of five of those present would die due to their drinking. It chilled him and he told me how young the people were there. It saddens me that he was that one. I think I will go to a meeting sometime when I’m a little more stable. For now, though, internet heresy ahoy. I’ve been looking at the Twelve Steps to Recovery for Alcoholics Anonymous. 1. We admitted we were powerless over alcohol—that our lives had become unmanageable.
My problem with those twelve steps is that they are God centric, therefore not particularly useful for the vast amount of atheists and agnostics out there. They are also rather self flagellating, focusing on shortcomings and wrongdoings, which makes it all seem like a punishment for Your Big Bad Thing rather than recovery. For Recovery from Mental Illness? However, I know many people have sought comfort and inspiration from the twelve steps. Alcoholism is a physical and emotional dependance on alcohol. Mental illness is a little different, however, I can see core similarities in recovering from addiction and mental illness. Obviously, in order to apply them you need to be in an accepting state of relatively sound mind, i.e not at the time psychotic or in denial about being sick. As the cliché goes, the first step to recovery is admitting you have a problem. I think the important part is following them in order as the last steps seem to reach for penance and absolution. But I’m going to flout that for now because I’m annoying like that. Let’s see. 1. We admitted we were powerless over alcohol—that our lives had become unmanageable. One of the first things we have to recognise when diagnosed with a mental illness is that the illness itself is partially responsible for our behaviour. A person without schizophrenia or any substance abuse problems won’t ordinarily be suffering from psychosis, for example. And the manic depressive’s depressions and manias are often caused by, well, manic depression. Manic depression, by its nature, is mood swings that are far greater than those of “normal” people and which cause disruption in our lives. That doesn’t mean that Life in General has no impact- of course it does- but suffering from manic depression means you’re predisposed towards certain reactions, such as depression or hypomania. It can sometimes be quite liberating as it frees you up from unneccessary self-examination. You can adjust your lifestyle accordingly when diagnosed with a mental illness, however, it removes that deep terror that you caused this and are somehow doing it to yourself. And there is nothing worse than feeling depressed and thinking, this will never end. When you have a diagnosis, a partial cause and you accept that diagnosis, it can help with that feeling of permanance. It’s a mood swing and you had better hold on tight. You will go through everything depression or mania entails but clench your teeth, take your medications, do whatever you can, tell the people around what is happening, and it will pass. Also: 3. Made a decision to turn our will and our lives over to the care of God as we understood Him. Now, this might be controversial but in my world, god doesn’t exist. I don’t believe in relinquishing control of your life to anyone or anything. But, if you have a diagnosis of mental illness that needs to be treated, one of the first decisions you are faced with is: Medication or no medication? Therapy or no therapy? Do you continue as you always had done or do you accept help? I’m not comparing psychiatry to god, here, but for those who suffer mental illness, they are our guardians. They are in ultimate control of our treatment. I personally think it is best to be involved as far as you can with your own treatment (or if you have a carer, for them to be very involved with your guidance). In order to do so, you’ve got to make the decision whether you will accept the treatment you’re offered. Find what works, find what doesn’t. If you have ever reached the point where you need to recover in order to save your life or sanity, it’s probably best to at least evaluate your options. 4. Made a searching and fearless moral inventory of ourselves. I say trash this one. The last thing you need when you’re recovering from an episode in mental illness is more relentless self-criticism. If anyone, give yourself a break. That doesn’t mean you can use your mental illness as a get out of jail free card. It does mean that you don’t need to catalog your wrongs and punish yourself for them. It’s a waste of time. Life’s difficult enough as it is. With bipolar disorder, the come down from mania is a guilty and horrible whirl of blank memories, self-hatred and guilt. Depression generally encompasses those things anyway. Do you really need more reasons to hate yourself? 6. Were entirely ready to have God remove all these defects of character. Let me tell you this right now. Mental illness is not a defect of character. There is nothing wrong with you and you did nothing wrong. You don’t “deserve” it. You’re a victim of it and you have three choices- you let it take over, you embrace it and go insane or you stand up and you fight it. Applied to substance abuse, I can see where they’re coming from. A “defect” might be the reason you drink or some of the fallout from it- such as neglect of the family etc. Still, I’m not overly keen on asking god to “remove” these alleged defects. Good old teamwork with a therapist and your loved ones might be handy, though. 9. Made direct amends to such people wherever possible, except when to do so would injure them or others. Applied specifically to bipolar disorder, this is good, if galling, advice. When I’ve been crazily high or crazily low, I’ve been capable of great thoughtlessness, bitchiness and general odd behaviour. I’ve insulted and cracked on to friends, stolen and told crazy delusional tales. At the time, I had no idea what I was doing but in the aftermath, it all became too clear. I think if relationships are wrecked or on the brink, if you can face it, face them. Explain why you acted that why and that you weren’t really in your proper mind at the time. Shit, it’s hard. I know this because I’ve done it. But it’s good advice. 10. Continued to take personal inventory and when we were wrong promptly admitted it. Recovery needs awareness. Part of the reason I keep this blog is to be aware of how I’m acting. I also keep a personal journal and ask Rob to observe when I’m going too far up or down. I decided to do this when I was in the state of mind to do so, but in getting other people involved, when I’m not, they are there to pick up the slack. If you or someone else notices you’re going too far up (in a way that’s going to fuck things up, like not sleeping enough, being overzealous at work, acting a little nuts and pissing people off or when psychosis kicks in) or too far down, you can take action. Talk to your psychiatrist or friends. Take steps. A few days off work, if you can, try to rest however hard it might be and slow the hell down. In the past, before I was formally diagnosed as suffering from bipolar I disorder, I did notice when I was going a little *makes hand gesture* but, because I thought, “Well, I’m like this”, I didn’t do anything and more often than not, I went too far and caused havoc where I went. Lost friends, jobs, dropped out of school, engaged in, ahem, antisocial behaviour or slipped into damaging self harming behaviour. Now that I know and make an effort to document it, I know when to say, “This isn’t working for me”. My ultimate goal in life is to have a normal life. Earn money, write a million stories and be the person I know I really am. The Problem of God If you don’t believe in god or have spirituality, who are you getting better for? The ideal answer is “yourself” of course, but we’re not always so dependable. When the medication is shit, the CPN hasn’t returned your calls, you feel like a black cloud is following you and you notice that spiders are crawling up your arms, who do you say “Stop!” for? Do you try harder for anyone else? In my case, it’s Rob. He is my best friend and I know how hard it was for him to put me in hospital. In the immediate aftermath, he hated himself for it and wondered if it was the best thing to do. He thought he had made everything worse rather than better. I want him to believe that what he did was for the best. If he hadn’t put me in hospital, I would have been dead by now. So when I’m retching a little from the Depakote but planning for a future I would never have had had he not put me in hospital, I thank him and think of him. I think of my family too who can not bear another loss. I know that in some cases, mental illness is terminal and I know I have reached points in my life where it has almost been the case for me. I don’t want my family to have to face that again. God is infallible and constant, whereas people are inconsistant and mortal. Therefore God’s abandonment probably stings a hell of a lot more than people’s. I live in a world without god due to lack of belief but I can’t imagine the desolation of those who live without god because they feel god is living without them. So I think it’s always a good thing to have a real life, flesh and blood person there to, if not hold your hand, occasionally flash a smile and let them know you’re there. People always feel as though they’re a burden but spread yourself thinly. Involve anyone you know who loves you a little bit. I quite like being helpful and when people turn to me in sorrow I never feel as if they are burdening me. I feel honoured that they share with me. Recovery I don’t believe that mental illness has a cure but I believe, like any lifelong condition, there are Bad Times and Good Times and that there is a “recovery” of sorts. The point where you can manage your condition and live a relatively happy life. I’m not there yet. But I will be. I want society to recover too. From their ignorance and prejudice against the mentally ill. I want people to stop shirking from the words “mentally ill” as if its some sort of witching hex. People don’t raise an eyebrow at physical illness so why at mental illness? Mental illness is not a personal weakness. It is a real and treatable condition that requires research, advocacy and acceptance. The treatment is not archiac self-examination. I firmly believe that mental illness has a biological basis and I believe and hope that further research will prove this. So that, once and for all, mental illness has the same acceptance and status of physical illness and that being mentally ill is not the societal equivalent of being branded with the scarlet letter.
2. Came to believe that a Power greater than ourselves could restore us to sanity.
3. Made a decision to turn our will and our lives over to the care of God as we understood Him.
4. Made a searching and fearless moral inventory of ourselves.
5. Admitted to God, to ourselves, and to another human being the exact nature of our wrongs.
6. Were entirely ready to have God remove all these defects of character.
7. Humbly asked Him to remove our shortcomings.
8. Made a list of all persons we had harmed, and became willing to make amends to them all.
9. Made direct amends to such people wherever possible, except when to do so would injure them or others.
10. Continued to take personal inventory and when we were wrong promptly admitted it.
11. Sought through prayer and meditation to improve our conscious contact with God as we understood Him, praying only for knowledge of His will for us and the power to carry that out.
12. Having had a spiritual awakening as the result of these steps, we tried to carry this message to alcoholics, and to practice these principles in all our affairs.
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God centric…
quickest route to illness
I’m a somewhat militant atheist but I won’t get into it here. Different strokes for different folks.
The treatment is not archiac self-examination. I firmly believe that mental illness has a biological basis and I believe and hope that further research will prove this. So that, once and for all, mental illness has the same acceptance and status of physical illness and that being mentally ill is not the societal equivalent of being branded with the scarlet letter.
all of life is a mix of biolgical basis and environmental factors.
mental illness is not by definition a lifelong condition. its misleading to suggest it is.it doesn’t need to be equated to phsical illness. people need to be simply not in distres or their lives dysfunctional. And as before even schizophrenics have choices
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Indeed. Are you pissed? Please repost your comment in English.
I also believe that mental illness is a mix of factors. What I want to be accepted, though, is that it has a biological basis. People so easily attribute it to “traumatic events” and dysfunction when sometimes, that just isn’t the case.
If it is recognised on a par with physical illness due to biological basis, it will help reduce the stigma that people suffer.
I think mental illnesses like anxiety, manic depression, schizophrenia, depression and the like *are* lifelong conditions that may be managed for ages but can flare up again. I think that without treatment and management, they get worse. They don’t just go away on their own. Most people who have had one manic episode will experience another untreated. The rate of reccurence is even higher for depression. Likewise with schizophrenia. One episode of illness invariably leads to another. There may be periods of stability and functioning but it needs to be treated. It isn’t the fourth highest cause of disability in the Western world for nothing.
The Enlish version won’t post??
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it wont repost – dont know why, do you want the better english version? you know the address. and no i wasn’t pissed just oveworked. take care
Seneen, Just a comment on AA and it’s twelve steps and in particular on God’s role in AA. I am BP, DX at 33, now i am 35. By the time I got DX I had a massive drinking problem, the old self medicating dual diagnosis cliche. I am card carying agnostic, the notion of God is anethema to me, but the key to AA is GOD AS YOU UNDERSTAND HIM. Also known as your higher power. It does not have to be a christian God of creation, it could be a bowl of fruit, as long as it helps you stop drinking. I am not an advocate of AA as such, but it’s not so much about God, as surrendering your will over to that bowl of fruit, or whatever the hell you decide your higher power is.
Be well Seneen, good luck with the job.
I have often thought that AA has certain similarities with religious cults beside the obvious one of a belief in God or a higher power.
Both seek to convince you that you have an illness or problem that is only solvable with the aid of the group. Both seek to make you dependant on that group for your “cure” and continued recovery. Both are often run by previous suffers who have been “converted” and have made the saving of others their life’s work and who bring an almost missionary zeal to their work that I find unhealthy at times.
anyway, i just thought of a good way to market Depakote! you could do it like Lovehearts!
‘You’re my Depa-cutie!’
etc.
there’s millions to be made…
E makes some interesting points. I wonder though E, are you an alcoholic?
No my experience with AA and similar groups is through my involvement with patients who attend and my own limited contact as a psychiatric nurse.
I once attended an AA group meeting and was struck by the almost messianic zeal with which the group leader put her point over. When I questioned her assertion that alcoholism is an illness without a “cure” except continued involvement with the group she looked at me with that “stay away from my belief system” that some religious fanatics sometimes have.
It struck me at the time that if you substituted “The Devil” for “Alcohol” you were only one step away from a religious cult. Like the Devil, alcohol is always out there ready to trap you the moment you stray away from the protective powers of the group. And only the group and in particular this group can save you from that. There was a lot of not so subtle peer pressure on members of the group not to break faith with other members and leave which I thought unhealthy.
I don’t want to slag off AA and other similar groups, if it works for you then dependence on a group is better than dependence on alcohol and I know several people whose lives have been saved by attending AA meetings, but I feel there is something slightly unhealthy about substituting one dependence for another.
Reading this blogg always leaves me with a feeling of numbness, perhaps the mix off emtotions is to much for my brain to fathom so it gives me numbness instead.
You are so like my friend, or the way my friend is beginning to be part of my is relieved to have a possible understanding and part of me i terrifyed of the knowledge.
You are an amazing person who is giving a ver important life line of understanding to many people. I hope you as many calm and contented periods as possible and a better understanding of your medication and the right combinatation.
The quote given to your dad is one i closely cheerish! it really is real advice!!!
All the best.
‘You’re my Depa-cutie!’
Grin
AA/NA Saved my life. Undiagnosed, self medicating, BiPolar Drug addicted alcoholic from the age of 16 through to 24. I Found NA at 24. Not only did it empower me to get clean and live healthily, it gave me tools to deal with my then unknown illness.
To this day, even though i am not an active member of either fellowship i still use those tools to manage my illness.
Because of the sheer impact the programme made in my life, i am in depressed/mixed state right now. The serenty prayer has a calming effect over me which is just as good as any benzo i have had.
“it works, If you work at it”
Thanks for your thoughts. I used selected AA steps for Bipolar recovery when I was first diagnosed with bipolar. I had lost my marriage and job, and was just starting to claw my way back to life on this planet. I went from being a professor, and needed a job. I got a job as a shoe salesman. That was just about all I could handle. I found that AA’s 12 steps really helped me – i needed to ditch my sense of entitlement because quite frankly my mental illness owned me now, and I had hit “rock bottom.” My life was all about starting over. I needed a new humility to overcome the massive loss and shame that I felt.
Mental illness is life-long, I have no illusions. I’ve fought this beast depression for 30+ years. The bipolar dx finally got noticed 2 years ago, so my meds are now correct. I’m starting over. At least I have a life now to start over.
I really appreciate this post. It was very thoughtful. Balance between taking responsibility, accepting how much of it is biology, and knowing that bipolar is a very formidable foe.
I think that this site and the information you provide is one of the most important steps you can take to reduce prejudice against those who have a mental illness. Unfortunately, the media is where most of the general public gets their information. In the United States, there are 2 million people with bipolar disorder. If 1 of them commits a crime, it is all over the news media. I have yet to see a story about the other 1,999,999 who are managing their daily lives and going about their business.
Great job with the site!
May seem dramatic – and I promise I’m presently my good and stable self – but I can honestly say that reading this stuff is the closest i’ve come in my 27 years to feeling I am genuinely experiencing Bipolar with others. Thank you x
I have not been to AA, but I have been to Al-ANLON, ACOA (adult children of alcoholics) and SAA (sex addicts anonymous), All of which are based on the twelve steps of alcoholics anonymous. They are actually quite open ended and non-dogmatic…built into the literature are ways for anyone to get benefits without having to sell their soul to some cult. One saying often heard is “Take what you like and leave the rest.” Which I seriously doubt any cult has ever used in their sermons. And using the group as a higher power is not usually cult like at all…but rather a much needed experience for people needing to communicate in a relatively safe place about things they cannot talk about elsewhere. Twelve step groups can certainly seem like cults to people who dont understand them, and can feel like cults to people going for the first time and either dont understand them yet, or dont feel comfortable enough yet to “take what they like and leave the rest.” Having said all that…I have heard nightmare stories about AA, which I think tends to be more conservative than some of its offspring twelve step groups…but that I think is usually due to a few bad apples trying to control the show…something I have never personally witnessed in any of my meetings.
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I would suggest to you, that there is a possibility that you don’t fully understand what alcoholism or more appropriately addiction is. It could easily be argued that Alcoholism/Addiction is a Mental illness that’s also a life long condition. The jury is still out as to it being biological or not. ether way like any mental illness denial prevents recovery.
Bipolar, (what’s DX) as I understand it; my doctor said I ‘am it’ a clinical physiologist said I ‘are it’ I sometime suffer from it. However in saying that I definitely know that I have experienced traumatic enough events in life to be diagnosed with complex PTSD.
Right, how to handle it…for one thing try to avoid people like ‘E’ that posted here contempt for something she clearly know bugger all about. And being that She or he claims the be a psychiatric nurse, dam well should. The 12 step fellowships are just that they are fellowships. They are groups of people that support each other. unlike anything religiously cultish there is no intentional high-racial structure, in-fact that’s whey the thing has survived. If it’s a bizarre fringe cult why do we all know about it. There’s an AA meeting in almost every small town in the developed world.
And yes I know the same could be said of the Christian church. The point is AA has work for a lot of people where E’s profession has failed miserably. My guess is that E suffers from professional narcissism.
The twelve step’s that you describe “Secret life”, are a bit thin one spiritual concept to be of practical use. I have good reason’s why all of the 12 step process can be utilized to mitigate some of the social consequences of hereditary bipolar affective disorder. But if you don’t have the humility to even acknowledge the second step in your blog, Then It’s not going to much point telling you what my reason are or how I know is there?
Contempt prior to investigation, thats how I feel about pharmaceuticals. Just because a multinational pharmaceuticals company invested hundreds of millions of dollars developing chemicals that are technically a cut above hit and miss quackery don’t prove they dance with god ether. With out negating drug therapy, because I believe in science above religious dogma, I suggest that we are complicated creatures on a difficult road, in need of serendipity. That’s never going to happen with a closed mind.
Sorry about all the typo’s up there. thesecretlifeofamanicdepressive I’m hoping you will keep this dialog going. I agree with you that mental illness needs less negative stigma. I appreciate your doing with your blogging about it.
BTW: you have an awfully long name.
And there go again.
I appreciate **what** your doing with your blogging about it.
The typing thing is a whole another (but not talking thing). Thats more of an ideological wiring thing.
I would suggest to you, that there is a possibility that you don’t fully understand what alcoholism or more appropriately addiction is.
Yes it’s not like I lived with an alcoholic for 21 years or anything.
So you know what codependency is then. Or should I say you don’t because you ‘haven’t’ lived with an alcoholic for 21 years.
So why have you trashed the twelve step process. I don’t think it was designed to belittle your condition in any way. I obviously doesn’t work for everyone.
I assume you never tried to medicate your Bipolar?
Something I noticed in your blog, you say all of your mental health issues are biological. Do’s that mean you are completely powerless over your mental illness?
After reading most of the blog and entries I am disheartened at the perception most people seem to have of God and who “He” is, so much so that it’s easier to dismiss His existence than seek any kind of relationship. Of course that’s what free will is all about!
I do believe that bipolar and TLE are linked somehow. One of the research papers I just finished reading can identify “bipolar” DNA.
Also, an fMRI will show bipolar in a brain. How does someone dream that up? I guess we mentally ill have psychic powers to “project” images on fMRI’s so we can convince the world we have a physical illness.
response to I bycycle. i dont know why youd think because that because BipD is biological one would be powerless. do you have no control of your biology? (you might think you dont right now)
We all have relative levels of awareness and control over minds and body. (mentally ill or not) sometime we have no control at points in our lives… sometimes we have enough to have an enjoyment and productivity.
Why trash a twelve step program? Because most of us Bipolars have been bombarded with these quick fix schemes early on in our illness recoveries.. they usually just make things more confusing.–
12 step programs may help with Attitude… but there are no quick fixes. Recovery is about coping and growing with illness.
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Hello TSL!
I read your post today about 12 steps to Bipolar Recovery. I thought perhaps you might be interested in a real 12 step plan for permanent recovery from bipolar?
Here is a post I made awhile back about it and like yourself I take issue with giving myself over to a higher power and voluntarily choosing to believe and accept my issues were somehow beyond my control.
http://intentions.wordpress.com/2008/02/16/bipolar-recovery-in-12-steps/
Includes a link to a youtube video I made about it as well
( this video has inflamed many 12 steppers btw
Take care and good luck in your recovery!